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« Reply #465 on: November 29, 2020, 06:10:PM »
Natural selection at work.

https://www.distractify.com/p/man-injected-covid-denier-dies


the fact he had to be injected with it shows its not a deadly or contagious diesaese how come he couldest catch it naturally.

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« Reply #466 on: November 30, 2020, 01:13:PM »

the fact he had to be injected with it shows its not a deadly or contagious diesaese how come he couldest catch it naturally.

He wasn’t injected with it, he only said he wanted to be injected with it. He caught it naturally like everyone else. Read properly.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=izqfrq_vpv4



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« Reply #467 on: December 21, 2020, 05:56:PM »
this site here has plenty of sources and debunks most of hanncocks bullshit.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/author/jonathan-barr/


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« Reply #468 on: December 21, 2020, 07:27:PM »
this site here has plenty of sources and debunks most of hanncocks bullshit.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/author/jonathan-barr/

Can you quite believe what has been unfolding in front of us?  Tens of millions of people have readily submitted to needless intimate restrictions on their ordinary liberties without any proper basis at all.

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« Reply #469 on: December 22, 2020, 07:01:PM »
Hopefully by early summer  all this will be over when all the vaccines have been rolled out.

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« Reply #470 on: December 22, 2020, 07:57:PM »
Hopefully by early summer  all this will be over when all the vaccines have been rolled out.

I will not be having it and I have never worn a mask and never will.  Others can do as they please.  Some of us see through it all.

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« Reply #471 on: December 24, 2020, 10:15:AM »
I will not be having it and I have never worn a mask and never will.  Others can do as they please.  Some of us see through it all.

Maybe the aliens are behind it. We should tell them we already know about Tommy Mair and they can shove their vaccine were Alpha Centuri doesn't shine.

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« Reply #472 on: December 24, 2020, 03:14:PM »
Maybe the aliens are behind it. We should tell them we already know about Tommy Mair and they can shove their vaccine were Alpha Centuri doesn't shine.

The two things don't bear comparison, though.  The evidence against Thomas Mair is overwhelming.  Likewise, the evidence that Covid-19 is harmless in almost-all cases is overwhelming: the government's own official statistics confirm this.  Thus, it is reasonable to oppose all of these measures.  As for the motivations behind the official hysteria, I don't need to go into 'conspiracy theories' about it: I can just point to the simple fact that governments commonly behave like this and exaggerate fears and threats.  There's a long history of it.

I will not be taking any vaccine or wearing any mask or submitting to any other measures.  Others may do as they please.  If the authorities try it on with me, they will answer for it in the courts as I will not meekly submit and comply.  It's not in my DNA.  I come from a long-line of criminals, rebels and troublemakers.

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« Reply #473 on: December 24, 2020, 05:20:PM »
I will not be having it and I have never worn a mask and never will.  Others can do as they please.  Some of us see through it all.

Like these morons "saw through" it?   

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53892856

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12954262/influencer-covid-dies-virus-turkey/

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« Reply #474 on: December 25, 2020, 02:59:AM »
Like these morons "saw through" it?   

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53892856

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12954262/influencer-covid-dies-virus-turkey/

Can you explain to me why we should lockdown entire societies, mandate the wearing of face-coverings, and put thousands of businesses to the wall, for something that has a roughly 98.5%/99% survival rate, according to the government's own statistics, and that for the overwhelming majority of infected is either asymptomatic or comes with mild or moderate symptoms?

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« Reply #475 on: December 29, 2020, 07:20:PM »
Can you explain to me why we should lockdown entire societies, mandate the wearing of face-coverings, and put thousands of businesses to the wall, for something that has a roughly 98.5%/99% survival rate, according to the government's own statistics, and that for the overwhelming majority of infected is either asymptomatic or comes with mild or moderate symptoms?

No response from David.  It wasn't a rhetorical question, so I hope David can blow [or sneeze?] us all away with an argument.   A.. aaaa- atishoo???

While we wait, here's a bit of photographic nostalgia.  Matt Hancock as Mister Dumb in Reservoir Dogs:

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« Reply #476 on: December 30, 2020, 09:21:PM »
Can you explain to me why we should lockdown entire societies, mandate the wearing of face-coverings, and put thousands of businesses to the wall, for something that has a roughly 98.5%/99% survival rate, according to the government's own statistics, and that for the overwhelming majority of infected is either asymptomatic or comes with mild or moderate symptoms?
I suppose the politicians are frightened of the headlines should anyone be turned away from a NHS hospital due to undercapacity. We've already had the scandal of the care homes deaths, which no doubt will be the subject of an enquiry once this pandemic has passed. https://www.healtheuropa.eu/covid-19-care-home-deaths-in-uk-hugely-underestimated/103989/

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« Reply #477 on: December 30, 2020, 11:55:PM »
I suppose the politicians are frightened of the headlines should anyone be turned away from a NHS hospital due to undercapacity. We've already had the scandal of the care homes deaths, which no doubt will be the subject of an enquiry once this pandemic has passed. https://www.healtheuropa.eu/covid-19-care-home-deaths-in-uk-hugely-underestimated/103989/

Yes, but that is not a reason for this significant infringement of your and my civil liberties, and we must remember what the government themselves say: that a large majority of infected people are believed to be asymptomatic carriers or suffer only mild symptoms.  Those suffering harsher symptoms are statistically tiny in number and mostly have co-morbidities or are elderly or both, meaning they would have had medical problems anyway. In a scenario without any public health restrictions, hospitalisations would not have put a strain on the NHS greater than that suffered in any other year.  Thus, we are still left with the question of why all these restrictions are being imposed.  If what you say has any basis - that politicians were just scared of newspaper and media headlines - then they are weak and stupid, but I am not sure it is just that because the scale and intensity of these restrictions goes far beyond what could be considered precautionary.

That's before we go into the whole medical premise.  If we accept the starting point that there is a virus, then by shielding people from an ordinary illness the authorities are doing no good because isolation, quarantining and distancing undermines the effectiveness of the natural immune system, as does inoculation.  This isn't HIV or cancer, or even chicken pox. 

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« Reply #478 on: December 31, 2020, 12:46:AM »
Yes, but that is not a reason for this significant infringement of your and my civil liberties, and we must remember what the government themselves say: that a large majority of infected people are believed to be asymptomatic carriers or suffer only mild symptoms.  Those suffering harsher symptoms are statistically tiny in number and mostly have co-morbidities or are elderly or both, meaning they would have had medical problems anyway. In a scenario without any public health restrictions, hospitalisations would not have put a strain on the NHS greater than that suffered in any other year.  Thus, we are still left with the question of why all these restrictions are being imposed.  If what you say has any basis - that politicians were just scared of newspaper and media headlines - then they are weak and stupid, but I am not sure it is just that because the scale and intensity of these restrictions goes far beyond what could be considered precautionary.

That's before we go into the whole medical premise.  If we accept the starting point that there is a virus, then by shielding people from an ordinary illness the authorities are doing no good because isolation, quarantining and distancing undermines the effectiveness of the natural immune system, as does inoculation.  This isn't HIV or cancer, or even chicken pox.
Well people sheltered in care homes weren't doing any harm, yet seem to have borne the brunt. Does it follow from this that the caregivers were slipshod in their personal hygiene habits and have unwittingly transmitted the virus to the most vulnerable section of society? My area has just entered Tier 4 and thank God it has, or hundreds of lager louts would be thronging the streets, the virus roaming rampant and increasing the pressure on the NHS, which might well have to cope with an influenza epidemic this winter alongside.

Don't I have the right to go about my business uninfected, just as you may have the right not to wear a face mask if you so choose?
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« Reply #479 on: December 31, 2020, 12:59:AM »
Well people sheltered in care homes weren't doing any harm, yet seem to have borne the brunt. Does it follow from this that the caregivers were slipshod in their personal hygiene habits and have unwittingly transmitted the virus to the most vulnerable section of society? My area has just entered Tier 4 and thank God it has, or hundreds of lager louts would be thronging the streets, the virus roaming rampant and increasing the pressure on the NHS, which might well have to cope with an influenza epidemic this winter alongside.

Don't I have the right to go about my business uninfected, just as you may have the right not to wear a face mask if you so choose?

No, you don't.  A government, being a manmade authority, cannot shield you from submicroscopic infectious agents and bacteria that occur in Nature.  Any effort to publicly mitigate your expose that involves infringing on my ordinary civil liberties - to perambulate around, not to have to wear face coverings unnecessarily, etc. - demands the most extraordinary justification.  The lethality of SARS-COV 2 is a fraction of a percent, and fatalities almost-always occur only in those with co-morbidities or who are elderly, and even then this virus is often only a secondary factor in the fatality.  I rest here on the government's own statistics.  I don't need to indulge in conspiracy theories, the government's own figures make my case for me.

There is simply no justification for your demands that businesses should close, we should restrict our basic freedoms and wear face coverings, and submit to an untested vaccine - if that is what you are demanding.  The various impositions and infringements grossly outweigh the risk and are the result of mass hysteria rather than any real biological or public health hazard.

I must ask: do either you or David actually have an argument or are you just resting here on what people in authority tell you?