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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2020, 06:10:PM »
It was always somewhat interesting to me, how people (including Jeremy, himself) often referred to Jeremy's father, by the name 'Ralph', and or ' Neville', or as the case, may be, or have been, 'Ralph Neville' / 'Bamber'...

Rest assured, that 'Ralph Neville' was the individual who made the call to Jeremy from whf to his cottage, prior to him (Ralph Neville) making the 3.26am call to PC West!
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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2020, 06:15:PM »
The £2,000 that Jeremy told Julie Mugford about concerning the payment he made to the mercenary / hitman to carry out the four murders, was the money Ralph Neville demanded for killing everyone (other than Sheila), which he used to flee from the UK on the morning of the killings!
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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2020, 06:19:PM »
The £2,000 that Jeremy told Julie Mugford about concerning the payment he made to the mercenary / hitman to carry out the four murders, was the money Ralph Neville demanded for killing everyone (other than Sheila), which he used to flee from the UK on the morning of the killings!

Ralph Neville, hitchhiked to the nearest port and ended up in Belgium, and rendezvoused with an internationally well known high profile drug baron, who was a business associate (in the drug culture of the time) of Jeremy's! He was behind the deliveries by light aircraft of drug drops in and around whf and Goldhanger that police were interested in, before and after the murders...
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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2020, 06:24:PM »
Ralph Neville, hitchhiked to the nearest port and ended up in Belgium, and rendezvoused with an internationally well known high profile drug baron there who was a business associate (in the drug culture of the time,1985) of Jeremy's! He was behind the deliveries by light aircraft of drug drops in and around whf and Goldhanger that police were interested in, before and after the murders...

Essex police, the drug squad, Customs and Special Branch officers, all knew that this well known drug baron had shown an interest in 'the purchasing' or 'takeover' of an expensive property in the region of Maldon/Goldhanger, but which never materialised because of Jeremy Bambers arrest in connection with the killings of members of his own family!
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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2020, 06:34:PM »
  ...this well known drug baron had shown an interest in 'the purchasing' or 'takeover' of an expensive property in the region of Maldon/Goldhanger, but which never materialised because of Jeremy Bambers arrest in connection with the killings of members of his own family!

The targeted property, was in fact whf...
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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2020, 06:41:PM »
Mathew McDonald was not merely exonerated because he had a concrete alibi at the 'time of the massacre' but just as importantly, 'his voice' was 'not the voice' of the individual which 'contacted PC West from the farmhouse at 3.26am', purporting to be 'Ralph Neville Bamber'!

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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2020, 09:19:PM »
Mike you had your chance to explore the drugs connection with HorseyDave. He said similar things about it about five - ten pages in from the beginning of the forum. I posted one of his posts up recently, about the finding of the silencer being in September.

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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2020, 11:38:PM »
Yes so you have known about all this and defended a guilty man and spent years going through documents for what exactly ?


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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2020, 11:45:PM »
So mike why did you write this ?

“ ased upon information and evidence which I have in my possession over the past 21 years or so whilst I have been taking an interest in this case, I have managed to form opinions which from my point of view, help me to reconstruct what took place at various points of the incident, which unfolded at whf, culminating in the deaths of five members of the same family. I am able to produce reconstructions of the various stages, for others to comment upon, and consider, in the search for the truth:-

(1) Between 3am and 4:10am

3:20am - Ralph Bamber contacts his son, Jeremy, from whf to head street, Goldhanger, alerting Jeremy to the fact that Sheila had got the gun and that she was going crazy, and could Jeremy "come quickly" to the farm. Connection gets interrupted, and although Jeremy tries to re-establish contact with his father at the farm, he keeps getting the engaged tone, which leads Jeremy to presume that his father is talking to someone else on the phone...

3:26am - Ralph contacts the police, telling them that his daughter has got possession of one of his guns and that she is going berserk

3:30am - Jeremy calls Julie Mugford, and tells her that something is happening at the farm

3:35am - the occupants of CA07, are deployed to the scene, in response to Ralph Bambers call

3:36am - Jeremy contacts the police and tells them about the call he recently received from his father at whf, there is a short delay, before he is told by the police to go to whf where he will be met by police officers who have already been deployed to the scene. Jeremy is told that if he gets to whf before the police do, that he is not to attempt to enter the farmhouse, and is specifically instructed to wait for the police to arrive there”

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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2020, 07:29:AM »
Mike you had your chance to explore the drugs connection with HorseyDave. He said similar things about it about five - ten pages in from the beginning of the forum. I posted one of his posts up recently, about the finding of the silencer being in September.

Yes, there was certainly a drugs connection by those or some involved in this shooting tragedy...

Sheila - Freddie Emani

Jeremy - Julie Mugford and all those she lived amongst in her bedsit...

Scotland

Belgium

Australia

South Africa


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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2020, 12:10:PM »
I posted one of his posts up recently, about the finding of the silencer being in September.

Yes, it is now confirmed that in fact there were at least two different silencers which formed part of the prosecutions case, one (SBJ/1) originally seized by DS Stan Jones at the scene on the first morning of the investigation, and a second silencer handed over to police by Ann Eaton in September 1985..
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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2020, 12:44:PM »
Where specifically did Stan Jones find the silencer on 7th August?

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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2020, 01:03:PM »
Where specifically did Stan Jones find the silencer on 7th August?

Downstairs toilet, and he also took a photograph of the contents of the same downstairs toilet, which subsequently got destroyed according to an entry in one of the four property registers, as part of the SC/688/85 investigation..
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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2020, 01:07:PM »
I've just read an online forum where someone posted that the silencer was found in the wardrobe  ::) It was 2014---so little wonder there are no more posts on that forum after then. You'd be surprised at the amount of posters who got things wrong.
Another one said that JB had been involved with a shipment of drugs at Tollesbury Marina and was being watched--------then decided it was someone else. A lot of drugs around there at the time of the murders.

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Re: The finding of two lamps in a hedge row close to farmhouse..
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2020, 01:46:PM »
Mike, I'm really not sure why any of this matters to you. For years you said Jeremy was innocent, and now for some reason you say that he told you years ago that he killed his mother, father, and his nephews, but not his sister. If he did that, he's just as guilty, so why does it matter to you?