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Offline Aunt Agatha

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Michael winner - True Crimes
« on: February 09, 2020, 12:48:PM »
https://youtu.be/NZILACHl544

One may have to copy and paste into browser, apologies I couldn’t get the full link up. Techno dinosaur.

When this first came out, I can catagorically state, without any hesitation, that when the police first entered the house, entered the kitchen, the police officer reported ‘one dead male, one dead female’.

The words ‘one dead female’ has been removed from this Michael winner film.

I wonder why.

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2020, 12:58:PM »
Aunt Agatha, how lovely to see you. Hope all is well. I'll watch that video.

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2020, 01:07:PM »
Aunt Agatha, how lovely to see you. Hope all is well. I'll watch that video.


Hello Lookout, wonderful to see you’re keeping the flag flying for Jeremy. 💕

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2020, 01:25:PM »

Hello Lookout, wonderful to see you’re keeping the flag flying for Jeremy. 💕





I certainly will keep the flag flying that's for sure.

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2020, 01:44:PM »
https://youtu.be/NZILACHl544

One may have to copy and paste into browser, apologies I couldn’t get the full link up. Techno dinosaur.

When this first came out, I can catagorically state, without any hesitation, that when the police first entered the house, entered the kitchen, the police officer reported ‘one dead male, one dead female’.

The words ‘one dead female’ has been removed from this Michael winner film.

I wonder why.
Is this the best you can do..

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2020, 01:47:PM »
Hello Aunt Agatha

Good to see you back .

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2020, 01:49:PM »
Is this the best you can do..

What is the matter with you?


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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2020, 01:57:PM »
What is the matter with you?
The case involves a 24-year-old disturbed individual shooting dead five members of his family in cold blood, and he's bothered about one omission?

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2020, 02:07:PM »
Is this the best you can do..



For over twenty five years both Jeremy and I have stated that that was what was stated in the very beginning.  He has never changed his view on this.
Michael Winner made this film based on documented evidence....and it originally stated ‘one dead male, one dead female!’
Someone has made a decision to omit that from the film and therefore change the events of that day.
Also, a police officer radioed in that he saw a female on the kitchen floor, when he looked through the window, before entry.
So yes, this is all I have!!

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2020, 02:43:PM »


For over twenty five years both Jeremy and I have stated that that was what was stated in the very beginning.  He has never changed his view on this.
Michael Winner made this film based on documented evidence....and it originally stated ‘one dead male, one dead female!’
Someone has made a decision to omit that from the film and therefore change the events of that day.
Also, a police officer radioed in that he saw a female on the kitchen floor, when he looked through the window, before entry.
So yes, this is all I have!!
Well at least you're honest.

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2020, 03:50:PM »
Take it from me Steve, Aunt Agatha is honest.

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2020, 03:58:PM »
https://youtu.be/NZILACHl544

One may have to copy and paste into browser, apologies I couldn’t get the full link up. Techno dinosaur.

When this first came out, I can catagorically state, without any hesitation, that when the police first entered the house, entered the kitchen, the police officer reported ‘one dead male, one dead female’.

The words ‘one dead female’ has been removed from this Michael winner film.

I wonder why.


Because that is how the logs recorded it. It's very well documented.
What it didn't do is explain how the logs were a misunderstanding of the confusion regarding the siting of a body (or bodies) through the kitchen window.
There are two schools of thought - those that believe the raid team's account that they misidentified the gender of the body through the kitchen window, and those that believe they actually say two bodies and then tried to cover it up.

Incidentally, the logs have other errors in too - for instance they state that all the lights in the house were on, when they weren't. Messages were relayed via radio, sometimes with ambiguity, confusion or just simply time delays between what those on the ground knew and what those at HQ knew.

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2020, 04:16:PM »
They may have seen two bodies until one got up and fled up the back stairs to shoot herself.

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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2020, 04:46:PM »
Brilliant Mistake how do you explain Jeremy not having a mark on him
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Re: Michael winner - True Crimes
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2020, 05:20:PM »
Brilliant Mistake how do you explain Jeremy not having a mark on him
He had a gun.