The case of Stuart Lubbock

[Jan]

I watched the programme this week and today watched two you tube videos.

The most worrying thing was how a renouned home office pathologist who did the first examination assumed so much and not only that but did not record all the injuries correctly or do the correct procedures or examinations .

And this is years after Jeremy’s case . It’s very disturbing.

Also heard a radio presenter saying Stuart Lubbock must have been gay . Well there were girls that went back to the house as well and perhaps he was star struck or did just go back for alcohol . What does it matter ? He did not asked to be raped and more than likely murdered ?

Also the pool was not heated it was March so would have been freezing so reports he had been swimming and divebombing I think are highly unlikely.

But 5 pathologists ?

Just shows you not all experts are actually experts .

[nugnug]

what happend to the pool thermoniter thats the qustion

[Steve_uk]

what happend to the pool thermoniter thats the qustion

There was a suggestion it was taken by Barrymore's agent, who was allowed by Police onto the premises. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/barrymore-the-body-in-the-pool/on-demand/69718-001

[Steve_uk]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-51413572

[Steve_uk]

Michael Barrymore still has questions to answer: https://youtu.be/qV8UnR8x3vM

[Jan]

Yes he definitely has .

[handyman]

This case may have already been discussed before. In the below video at the 3 minute mark Sonia Poulton goes off on a tangent to talk about the Stuart Lubbock case, and is scathing of Essex police's handling of this case.
Michael Barrymore just ups and leaves before the Police arrive.
https://youtu.be/TsLJoTOSZDI?t=164

[Steve_uk]

This case may have already been discussed before. In the below video at the 3 minute mark Sonia Poulton goes off on a tangent to talk about the Stuart Lubbock case, and is scathing of Essex police's handling of this case.
Michael Barrymore just ups and leaves before the Police arrive.
https://youtu.be/TsLJoTOSZDI?t=164

We have a thread on this already. Jan hasn't been online for awhile. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10177.0.html

[ngb1066]

We have a thread on this already. Jan hasn't been online for awhile. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10177.0.html

Threads now merged.

[Steve_uk]

The case is reopened as the twentieth anniversary of his death approaches. https://youtu.be/gkg2Xt8pvfk

[lookout]

20 years later 

[Steve_uk]

20 years later 

Lookout I'm not a lawyer but I would have charged all of them under joint enterprise.

[lookout]

Lookout I'm not a lawyer but I would have charged all of them under joint enterprise.

Yes, there was only a handful of them anyway.

[QCChevalier]

Lookout I'm not a lawyer but I would have charged all of them under joint enterprise.

Can you explain why?

I was reading this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/25/michael-barrymore-paid-two-witnesses-not-give-evidence-pool/

I don't have a detailed knowledge of the case and haven't read the book by Lubbock's father.  Based on what I have read about it, my hunch is that it was an accidental death that occurred without Barrymore's involvement, and once the body was discovered, Barrymore and friends realised the police would search the entire premises, so were trying to hide drugs - which is what they meant by 'clean up the house'. 

Ironically, the Essex Police allegations in the 2017 civil case would assist Barrymore's defence in the event of a trial.

[Steve_uk]

Can you explain why?

I was reading this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/25/michael-barrymore-paid-two-witnesses-not-give-evidence-pool/

I don't have a detailed knowledge of the case and haven't read the book by Lubbock's father.  Based on what I have read about it, my hunch is that it was an accidental death that occurred without Barrymore's involvement, and once the body was discovered, Barrymore and friends realised the police would search the entire premises, so were trying to hide drugs - which is what they meant by 'clean up the house'. 

Ironically, the Essex Police allegations in the 2017 civil case would assist Barrymore's defence in the event of a trial.

Well I think the four men should have been questioned under suspicion of murder. It's possible that one of them would have cracked under interrogation. It seems as if they've arrested Barrymore's ex-boyfriend in Cheshire, but unless he confesses I don't see how they will get a conviction now.