P.277 from Sandra Lean’s book, IB, mentions that one of the DCIs said to LM during his Section 14 interview (on 14.08.03) that he sent a ‘joke text’ to someone at 0027 hrs on 01.07.03. LM denied this, but I was wondering if anyone knew who the message was supposedly sent to and what the contents were? Text messages weren’t retrievable back in 2003/2004 from mobile phone operators due to the popularity
of them and the sheer volume of them would be very problematic for phone companies’ servers. Even in the present day, mobile phone operators don’t retain text messages for any length of time. Anyway, we know that L&BP had to use unorthodox tactics to go toe to toe with LM as he was advanced for his age, devious and calculating, but I doubt very much that they would totally lie or use immoral tactics to frame him or to elicit a false confession from him. This ‘joke text’ is interesting — and I don’t think it was fabricated story to frame LM — so was wondering if someone could shed some light on the origins of it? I actually believe he did send such a message, as it ties in with his lack of empathy and his psychopathy.
edit: lm had wiped his entire mobile phone history out just after midnight on 01.07.03 (probably to erase incriminating evidence, for example the details of his meeting arrangement with JodJ earlier at 1700?), so how did l&bp manage to ascertain it was sent?
Are you sure Germane about the mobile phone companies not having to comply with retaining information for 12 months , have you done any research from other cases of what the capabilities of mobile site analysis where and how criminal investigations used this technology in court. Have a look into the Soham muder and trial , again this is just another failure from the police investigation in my opinion.
I am very suspicious of this police investigation for example the mobile phone expert within Lothian and Borders was only able to retrieve 3 deleted messages
1. Judy to Luke , toad that's you grounded text , that's important for the jury to see as it says mother believes daughter is with Luke , in turn it supports the prosecutions story
2. Text from the other woman or should I say wee lassie saying how much she loves Luke , this was sent 3 days prior to murder incidentently this was mr Dobbie motive for Jodi being killed , supporting that prosecution story again
My question is why the expert Mr Morris was only able to obtain messages to support the prosecution story what happened to all those crucial text retrieval , I can't help feeling a tad suspicious about that.
What happened to site analysis from all the mobile phones why or for what reason did this 2005 trial have no forensic evidence relating to the phones , dare I say it just another incompetency from this police investigation in my opinion.
I have tried to copy a Herald article 08/01/2005 headline Phone record of Jodi accused , sadly my it skills are not the greatest but easily searched with information I have given , DF questions this expert on his findings and also Professor B testimony .
I will state yet again the failure of this case lays directly beside that deplorable, outrageous and seriously poor investigation, that's why I don't fully get your stance. You seem intelligent enough for me anyway to see the massive problem areas within that investigation , that's not here say that's fact the many flaws are in the public domain and so it should be , this is a public service which I only have the deapest admiration for the men and woman that fight crime , but not this investigation it was poor, inadequate and not fit for purpose , we should all together be outraged at the many mistakes of this police investigation. They let the Jones family down , they let the Dalkeith community down and they let Scotland down , it's overwhelmingly embarrassing to support this investigation but I also can see their are some who minimise the effect this has had on the trial and the outcome. Matter of time for this to be put to an Independent Enquiry it is the only way we will find resolve for all no matter what your side .