Jeremy Bamber trial examination

[Steve_uk]

what's the relevance? Please elaborate further

It ties in with Julie's evidence that Jeremy's initial plan was the burn down the Farm and spiking Nevill's nightcap.

[lookout]

That was JM's word against JB's. Not a fair outcome. Then again neither was it a fair trial which contained a heck of a lot of " he saids " .

[lookout]

In the 34 years that Jeremy has been in umpteen different prisons have any of the inmates at any time ever accused him of being a psychopath or even a paranoid schizophrenic ? These prisoners are all he has known over the years and them him yet it's never been reported once that there's anything mentally disturbing about his behaviour and I would say that they're all the best judges when it comes to an inmate being mad, vicious, uncontrollable, unbalanced,  aggressive,  dangerous,  angry outbursts, mental and all the other traits of a psychopath.
Neither was he any of those traits before being incarcerated.

[Caroline]

In the 34 years that Jeremy has been in umpteen different prisons have any of the inmates at any time ever accused him of being a psychopath or even a paranoid schizophrenic ? These prisoners are all he has known over the years and them him yet it's never been reported once that there's anything mentally disturbing about his behaviour and I would say that they're all the best judges when it comes to an inmate being mad, vicious, uncontrollable, unbalanced,  aggressive,  dangerous,  angry outbursts, mental and all the other traits of a psychopath.
Neither was he any of those traits before being incarcerated.

No one has even said he's a paranoid schizophrenic - which is far removed from being a psychopath. If Bamber killed his family, he most definitely is a psychopath. I'm am sure there are many prisoners who have met Bamber - who agree.

[lookout]

No one has even said he's a paranoid schizophrenic - which is far removed from being a psychopath. If Bamber killed his family, he most definitely is a psychopath. I'm am sure there are many prisoners who have met Bamber - who agree.

Not a psychopath. We'd have heard within this 34 years whether JB had shown signs of aggressive behaviour, particularly as he's getting older and I expect, more frustrated at the length of time he's been there .
There are far more psychopaths walking the streets, knife criminals who show no remorse-----how many ??

[guest7363]

Not a psychopath. We'd have heard within this 34 years whether JB had shown signs of aggressive behaviour, particularly as he's getting older and I expect, more frustrated at the length of time he's been there .
There are far more psychopaths walking the streets, knife criminals who show no remorse-----how many ??

Trouble is you don’t sometimes know who is a psychopath, not all psychopaths are aggressive, you don’t have to be aggressive to be a killer, The most dangerous psychopaths learn and mimic normal behaviours so well they become virtually undetectable .

[Caroline]

Not a psychopath. We'd have heard within this 34 years whether JB had shown signs of aggressive behaviour, particularly as he's getting older and I expect, more frustrated at the length of time he's been there .
There are far more psychopaths walking the streets, knife criminals who show no remorse-----how many ??

Why would we have heard? The test used for diagnosis isn’t the best. Perhaps he should agree to a brain scan - if he’s not a psychopath, it could only work in his favour.

[guest7363]

Why would we have heard? The test used for diagnosis isn’t the best. Perhaps he should agree to a brain scan - if he’s not a psychopath, it could only work in his favour.

The psychopathic brain is fundamentally different than regular brains. In the brain, the amygdala controls our emotional responses — but it doesn’t function properly in the psychopath’s brain. Not only does this amputate the ability to experience empathy, but it also means that the psychopath is a gifted liar. The usual “tells” of lying, such as involuntary twitches or increased an heart rate, doesn't apply for psychopaths. As a result, they can often pass polygraph tests.
 

[lookout]

Trouble is you don’t sometimes know who is a psychopath, not all psychopaths are aggressive, you don’t have to be aggressive to be a killer, The most dangerous psychopaths learn and mimic normal behaviours so well they become virtually undetectable .

 

JB showed no aggression before prison but Sheila had always been hot-headed and unpredictable. Why do you think Colin divorced her ?

[Caroline]

 

JB showed no aggression before prison but Sheila had always been hot-headed and unpredictable. Why do you think Colin divorced her ?

Not because she was violent. It’s amazing how you know so much about the mechanics of this family, having never met them.

[lookout]

Not because she was violent. It’s amazing how you know so much about the mechanics of this family, having never met them.

Perhaps I know a bit more of life / families than you do ?
 Bit of a weak remark  on your behalf don't you think ?

[guest7363]

 

JB showed no aggression before prison but Sheila had always been hot-headed and unpredictable. Why do you think Colin divorced her ?

Did Colin divorce Sheila or did Sheila divorce Colin?  When the twins were 6 months old, Sheila split up with Colin according to Jeremy?  Then after the mandatory two years they divorced.

[lookout]

Did Colin divorce Sheila or did Sheila divorce Colin?  When the twins were 6 months old, Sheila split up with Colin according to Jeremy?  Then after the mandatory two years they divorced.

Well it obviously wasn't Sheila who'd wanted a reconciliation whereas Colin hadn't. The answer is there somewhere.

[guest7363]

Well it obviously wasn't Sheila who'd wanted a reconciliation whereas Colin hadn't. The answer is there somewhere.

Oh I never looked at it like that

[lookout]

Sheila had a lot on her plate to think about that night-----Colin's overall care of the twins. Another woman in the equation having more access to the twins than their own mother. The talk of fostering to give Sheila a break. Convalescence offered to Sheila away from her beloved boys. Colin taking the boys on holiday to his sister with his new-found girlfriend.
Sheila's existing illness which prevented anything but a normal life for her. How do you think that Sheila would have felt with all this going on ?