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Offline David1819

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2019, 05:37:PM »

The "alibi" of SK's father and the circumstances surrounding it remain questionable.


What about the inconsistencies in Luke's "alibi"?

Shane Mitchell believed he was all alone in the house and on-top of that admitted that his mother got him to lie in his statements. Shane's later honest account is corRoborated by computer records, his mothers track record of dis-honestly and all the circumstancial evidence against luke.


Does SKs alibi fall apart likes Luke's "alibi" does? They cannot both have killed her thus the person with the most inconsistent alibi is likely the perpetrator.

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2019, 07:15:PM »
I'd like to be sure that Parky accidentally copied and pasted a post from this thread and replied to it on another thread, while David timeously steps in and changes the subject on this thread.

Otherwise, I might be drawn to a conclusion or assumption (perhaps mistaken, perhaps not) that mischief making and game playing, rather than a genuine attempt at debate, are the order of the day.


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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2019, 10:21:PM »
I'd like to be sure that Parky accidentally copied and pasted a post from this thread and replied to it on another thread, while David timeously steps in and changes the subject on this thread.

Otherwise, I might be drawn to a conclusion or assumption (perhaps mistaken, perhaps not) that mischief making and game playing, rather than a genuine attempt at debate, are the order of the day.

of course it is but its not going to work.
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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2019, 11:18:PM »
I'd like to be sure that Parky accidentally copied and pasted a post from this thread and replied to it on another thread, while David timeously steps in and changes the subject on this thread.

Otherwise, I might be drawn to a conclusion or assumption (perhaps mistaken, perhaps not) that mischief making and game playing, rather than a genuine attempt at debate, are the order of the day.

I don't read the majority of Parky41s posts. I find them too long and confusing (just saying)  :-\

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2019, 11:45:AM »
Simply mistaken Sandra - I moved it back to the main thread for Nugnug. The topic had wandered off from Stocky Man.
The conversation was becoming more generalised around CM's podcast, of  blatant misrepresentation.
They had gotten a little upset previously when this happened.

When they had made the following comment;

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another desprate to take the thread away from the stocky man.

I therefore moved the topic back onto Stocky man.
It was digressing, yet again, subsequently moving it to the general thread.
To be met with;

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I'd like to be sure that Parky accidentally copied and pasted a post from this thread and replied to it on another thread, while David timeously steps in and changes the subject on this thread.

Otherwise, I might be drawn to a conclusion or assumption (perhaps mistaken, perhaps not) that mischief making and game playing, rather than a genuine attempt at debate, are the order of the day.


No game play, nor "over to you".
A young girl lost her life, her boyfriend is serving a life sentence for killing her. - it is no game.
Simply - no points to be won.
 
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of course it is but its not going to work
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It is of course, rather sad - that there does indeed appear to be some form of game play, with point scoring comments, and "over to you"
Having made it clear about my studies, and my search, as to why? the police sought to convict Luke - being, all but complete;
I will leave you in this game of "over to you" and of scoring points. (being a level of study in itself)
There is but one area left to complete. It may require, some, further assistance from yourselves.
It was after all, that simple piece of wrongful information, from yourselves - of the search trio having to walk passed YW's when going directly to this path, that prompted
my studies around this case.

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2019, 05:54:PM »
ive created another thread to talk about the albi.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10046.0.html

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2019, 01:13:AM »
I think the sighting from the person that knew her is far more credible than ABs. But if the stocky guy was following her or simply walking behind her we will never know. Unless there is more to come out about this supposed confession.

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #67 on: November 17, 2019, 01:19:AM »
I think the sighting from the person that knew her is far more credible than ABs. But if the stocky guy was following her or simply walking behind her we will never know. Unless there is more to come out about this supposed confession.

well who ever he was he never came foward to give evedence.

assuming jodi was killed at that timeon the path even if he is not the killer he must of seen somthing.

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« Reply #68 on: November 17, 2019, 01:40:AM »
well who ever he was he never came foward to give evedence.

assuming jodi was killed at that timeon the path even if he is not the killer he must of seen somthing.

It’s very possible he is the killer and that is why he never came forward but imo it’s also possible it was just an average day for him, nothing out of the ordinary and he did not remember seeing anything that would help in the investigation and therefore did not come forward, he had no reason to. Was there an appeal for him to come forward?

Same goes for the 2 people at the top of the path AB saw, they, imo, were not Jodi and Luke, they also maybe didn’t come forward for the same reason. Don’t remember seeing anything
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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #69 on: November 17, 2019, 01:55:AM »
It’s very possible he is the killer and that is why he never came forward but imo it’s also possible it was just an average day for him, nothing out of the ordinary and he did not remember seeing anything that would help in the investigation and therefore did not come forward, he had no reason to. Was there an appeal for him to come forward?

Same goes for the 2 people at the top of the path AB saw, they, imo, were not Jodi and Luke, they also maybe didn’t come forward for the same reason. Don’t remember seeing anything

well even if hes not the killer and dident see her being killed her would stil have ital imformation about her ovements and the derection she took so any competent detective would want him to come forward.

i think theydid mak esuch an appeal but i cannot be certan

but if they dident you would have to askwhynot what were they playing at.

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« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2019, 02:22:AM »
well even if hes not the killer and dident see her being killed her would stil have ital imformation about her ovements and the derection she took so any competent detective would want him to come forward.

i think theydid mak esuch an appeal but i cannot be certan

but if they dident you would have to askwhynot what were they playing at.

It could simply be he doesn’t even remember seeing her, didn’t notice her. I walked to my folks then home again yesterday, I know there were other people around but I cant remember any of them apart from a mother and her child, because the wee girl was being cheeky and was getting told of by her mum, it was funny so gives me reason to remember them. As for the other folk I passed I have no idea. Could be same for him, so no reason to go to the police. I know I wouldn’t as I’d have nothing to tell them.

Be good to find out if there was an appeal for him to come forward, there certainly should have been!!
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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #71 on: November 17, 2019, 02:38:AM »
It could simply be he doesn’t even remember seeing her, didn’t notice her. I walked to my folks then home again yesterday, I know there were other people around but I cant remember any of them apart from a mother and her child, because the wee girl was being cheeky and was getting told of by her mum, it was funny so gives me reason to remember them. As for the other folk I passed I have no idea. Could be same for him, so no reason to go to the police. I know I wouldn’t as I’d have nothing to tell them.

Be good to find out if there was an appeal for him to come forward, there certainly should have been!!

to not rember seeing her i think he would have to have poor eyesight and never watch news. or read a newspaper

i mean thepress coveragee should of jogged his memory a bit and the distance bettween suggests he woulf of seen her.

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #72 on: November 17, 2019, 07:49:AM »
The appeal for stocky man first went out on July 16th, with reports stating that a witness thought he saw the same man at the reconstruction.

Although both the reports below said "around 5pm" we now know the witnesses said "about 5.05pm." What's never been explained is why the police waited so long to release the information about Stocky Man. When the man from the reconstruction came forward a couple of weeks later (and proved he was not Stocky Man), the media ran headlines saying "Mystery Man traced" and appeals for the real Stocky Man began to disappear.

To this day, I still talk to  people who say, "But the Stocky Man was traced" - the power of the media!

By the end of July, police were still appealing for a young blonde woman seen pushing a buggy towards Easthouses at "around 5pm" - when she finally came forward, she said she'd seen nothing (she'd been on holiday and hadn't seen or heard the appeals for her to contact police). She was claimed to have been seen "about 20 yards from Jodi's home," but reports didn't say in which direction. The driver of a car with its bonnet up in front of Newbattle High School was never traced.

So yes, it's entirely possible people didn't come forward because they didn't remember seeing anything that they thought might be significant.

But it does seem odd that, after the man from the reconstruction came forward, the urgency to find the real Stocky Man dissipated very quickly amidst headlines that appeared to suggest he'd been traced and eliminated from the enquiry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3070589.stm
https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/police-seek-youth-who-trailed-jodi-1-656152

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2019, 11:13:AM »
its pretty obvios the stocky never came forward becouse if he had he would of been called as a witness.

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Re: the stocky man seen follwing jodi.
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2019, 05:28:PM »
It seems strange that he did not come forward when there was an appeal for him. But there could be a number of reasons he didn’t. The fact the police seem to give up looking for him seems clear, it didn’t fit with their theory so they went with the Bryson sighting instead which might have been a huge mistake if Luke is in fact innocent.