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Offline lookout

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2019, 02:06:PM »
He certainly did get it wrong !

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2019, 03:23:PM »
He certainly did get it wrong !

He didn't? Then why did Jeremy wait over 25 minutes before calling the police? Why did he say he called the police first before calling Julie because if he called the police at 03:36 then he definitely called Julie first! Also, why did he try to bring a perjury charge against West? Accusing him of altering the log from 03:26 to 03:36 - being adamant that he called earlier and that he called Julie after?
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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2019, 03:38:PM »
He certainly did get it wrong !

Has it dawned on you that he wrote a 3 instead of a 2?

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2019, 04:52:PM »
Has it dawned on you that he wrote a 3 instead of a 2?




No. It looks like 03.37 to me which was changed from either 03.45 or 03.49.

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2019, 05:23:PM »



No. It looks like 03.37 to me which was changed from either 03.45 or 03.49.

David is talking about West, not that rubbish from the Mirror.
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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2019, 06:12:PM »
David is talking about West, not that rubbish from the Mirror.




Where am I supposed to look ? It was the first Mirror I've bought-----ever.

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2019, 06:33:PM »
This one lookout.


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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2019, 07:30:PM »
I'm sorry but where should I be looking at a 3 which is really a 2 ?

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2019, 07:32:PM »



Where am I supposed to look ? It was the first Mirror I've bought-----ever.

West wrote the time on the log that Kaldin posted, we have no idea who wrote the 03:37 (APPROX and earlier time entry scrubbed out) that was posted in The Mirror. It's a random entry on some other log.
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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2019, 07:40:PM »
I'm sorry but where should I be looking at a 3 which is really a 2 ?

Can you see the time West received the call from Jeremy? It says 03.36. That's a problem because when West phoned Bonnet, Bonnet put the time as 3.26.

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2019, 07:53:PM »
Can you see the time West received the call from Jeremy? It says 03.36. That's a problem because when West phoned Bonnet, Bonnet put the time as 3.26.





Somebody wasn't concentrating were they ? 5 murders and more mistakes than enough.

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2019, 07:54:PM »




Somebody wasn't concentrating were they ? 5 murders and more mistakes than enough.

To be fair, PC West didn't know at the time that five people had been or would be murdered.

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2019, 12:39:AM »
Jeremy calls West at 3:36am and has two conversations with West while also being on hold for six minutes in-between. This means Jeremy got off the phone no sooner than 3:44am.

He then must drive at around 84 mph in order to reach his destination 4.2 miles away at 3:47am. This also allows no time for Jeremy to call Julie, get the car keys, and put clothes on.
It's not known how long Jeremy was on hold for. At trial, Pc West thought it was far less than six minutes. Also, Jeremy's journey was about 3.6 miles, not 4.2 miles, as far as I know. Hence he had just enough time to do the trip, assuming he had telephoned Julie and got dressed before he called the police; his car keys were probably in one of his pockets. The trip probably took between 6 and 7 1/2 minutes, depending on how fast he drove (7 1/2 minutes corresponds to 29 mph average speed; 6 minutes corresponds to 36 mph average speed; the police who overtook him mentioned "about 30 mph" or "up to 30 mph" as his speed when overtaken).

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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2019, 02:34:PM »
Hopefully the CT will say why Nevill got the Yello Pages out and phoned the sixth furthest away police station. Rather than dial 999.

They are the ones saying it happened & have had enough time to think of a reason. 
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Re: Jeremy 'schumacher' Bamber
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2019, 02:38:PM »
                       Minutes:                Miles:

Chelmsford      0.39                         21.1
Colchester       0.26                         13
Maldon             0.20                         7.2
Tiptree              0.10                         3.8
Witham             0.27                        11.1
'Only I know what really happened that night'.