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Offline Caroline

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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #120 on: November 22, 2019, 07:58:PM »
Ah, there were four others which had been fired which had been loaded twice. That makes five.

It sounds to me like there were five bullets in the magazine, and they were emptied out, and then the magazine was loaded again.

Those extra five could have been taken out on a different occasion but they were certainly back in the murders.
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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #121 on: November 22, 2019, 08:00:PM »
Those extra five could have been taken out on a different occasion but they were certainly back in the murders.

So where had the bullets been previously?

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« Reply #122 on: November 22, 2019, 08:01:PM »
So where had the bullets been previously?

From the study I imagine, with the rifle.
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« Reply #123 on: November 22, 2019, 08:03:PM »
From the study I imagine, with the rifle.

Just loose in the study? Someone took them out and put them somewhere, and then on the night of the shootings they mysteriously found their way into the magazine again.

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« Reply #124 on: November 22, 2019, 09:02:PM »
Just loose in the study? Someone took them out and put them somewhere, and then on the night of the shootings they mysteriously found their way into the magazine again.

Hardly! That's where the gun cupboard was, the ammo was kept in a carrier bag IN the gun cupboard but the magazine obviously had bullets still in it from the last time it was used. Not sure how this is relevant to the discussion.
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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #125 on: November 22, 2019, 09:05:PM »
Hardly! That's where the gun cupboard was, the ammo was kept in a carrier bag IN the gun cupboard but the magazine obviously had bullets still in it from the last time it was used. Not sure how this is relevant to the discussion.

So you now think the five bullets were still in the magazine? Why would Jeremy empty them out onto the kitchen surface?
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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #126 on: November 22, 2019, 09:24:PM »
Those 5 bullets have done their rounds haven't they ?

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« Reply #127 on: November 22, 2019, 09:43:PM »
So you now think the five bullets were still in the magazine? Why would Jeremy empty them out onto the kitchen surface?

He didn't empty them out, nor did I say he did, they weren't found on the kitchen surface. He used them in the murders.
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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #128 on: November 22, 2019, 09:50:PM »
He didn't empty them out, nor did I say he did, they weren't found on the kitchen surface. He used them in the murders.

But five of the bullets had been loaded into the magazine twice, so they must have been removed and reloaded. One of the bullets which wasn't used was found in the kitchen - DRH/23. That had been loaded into the magazine before but wasn't used in the murders.




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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #129 on: November 22, 2019, 10:11:PM »
But five of the bullets had been loaded into the magazine twice, so they must have been removed and reloaded. One of the bullets which wasn't used was found in the kitchen - DRH/23. That had been loaded into the magazine before but wasn't used in the murders.

So they were took out and reloaded for whatever reason. The FACT is they were there 30 shells left when there should have been 25. I can speculate as to why they were reloaded until the cows come home, but it is irrelevant to the point.
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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #130 on: November 22, 2019, 10:15:PM »
So they were took out and reloaded for whatever reason. The FACT is they were there 30 shells left when there should have been 25. I can speculate as to why they were reloaded until the cows come home, but it is irrelevant to the point.

For what reason? If one of them was on the kitchen surface, they were probably all on the kitchen surface to begin with, and four of them were used in the shooting.

It's not irrelevant. You want to know where there were five extra bullets, and here we have five bullets which were in the magazine, and then removed from the magazine. You don't think there's a connection?

Is it not likely that the bullets were removed from the magazine from the last time it was used? Where would someone put those five bullets?



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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #131 on: November 22, 2019, 10:23:PM »
For what reason? If one of them was on the kitchen surface, they were probably all on the kitchen surface to begin with, and four of them were used in the shooting.

It's not irrelevant. You want to know where there were five extra bullets, and here we have five bullets which were in the magazine, and then removed from the magazine. You don't think there's a connection?

Is it not likely that the bullets were removed from the magazine from the last time it was used? Where would someone put those five bullets?

They could have been removed and replaced before the murders, however, the most likely reason is that Bamber ejected them onto the counter to see how many were in the clip, as such, they got mixed with the others on the counter top and replaced randomly.
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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #132 on: November 22, 2019, 10:32:PM »
They could have been removed and replaced before the murders, however, the most likely reason is that Bamber ejected them onto the counter to see how many were in the clip, as such, they got mixed with the others on the counter top and replaced randomly.

If he couldn't see how many bullets were in the magazine, he may well have done that - in order to have enough to shoot the rabbits.

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« Reply #133 on: November 22, 2019, 10:37:PM »
If he couldn't see how many bullets were in the magazine, he may well have done that - in order to have enough to shoot the rabbits.

That doesn't make sense? He said he was in a hurry and as long as there were some bullets in the rifle it would have been enough for the rabbits. He also neglected to mention that in his statement - which I have posted. It seems to you are looking for excuses to bury or dismiss and important fact?
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Re: Five Magic Bullets
« Reply #134 on: November 22, 2019, 10:42:PM »
That doesn't make sense? He said he was in a hurry and as long as there were some bullets in the rifle it would have been enough for the rabbits. He also neglected to mention that in his statement - which I have posted. It seems to you are looking for excuses to bury or dismiss and important fact?

Then why would he need to empty the magazine in order to fill it again? He could just fill it with as many bullets which would go in.

It seems to me that you're ignoring this issue of five bullets being removed from the magazine.