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Offline Caroline

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Re: dogs and blood.
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2019, 04:26:PM »
Of course dogs can smell blood - I don't think anyone said they couldn't?

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Re: dogs and blood.
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2019, 04:29:PM »
exactly so any dog can find a body if the body has open wounds and cuts as Jodi had.

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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2019, 04:40:PM »
exactly so any dog can find a body if the body has open wounds and cuts as Jodi had.

As long as that dog has been trained to lead people to that particular scent.

Any dog can smell drugs but no good unless the police train it to.

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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2019, 04:43:PM »
As long as that dog has been trained to lead people to that particular scent.

Any dog can smell drugs but no good unless the police train it to.

no any dog can smell blood.

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Re: dogs and blood.
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2019, 04:50:PM »
Any murderer would know how to walk his dog to his murder victims body.  ;D

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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2019, 04:52:PM »
Any murderer would know how to walk his dog to his murder victims body.  ;D

why would they want to its not in the murders intrest for the body to be found.

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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2019, 06:00:PM »
exactly so any dog can find a body if the body has open wounds and cuts as Jodi had.

I believe the dog was on a lead? If so, it was under the control of the handler and not free to discover anything on it's own.

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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2019, 06:02:PM »
I believe the dog was on a lead? If so, it was under the control of the handler and not free to discover anything on it's own.

doesnt your dog ever smell somthing and try to pull you towards it.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2019, 06:10:PM »
doesnt your dog ever smell somthing and try to pull you towards it.

Of course, but we're talking about a tuft of grass or a tree near-by. He doesn't pull over any kind of distance. Given that the dog in question was tethered, it would be difficult to prove that it was the dog that found the body.

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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2019, 07:19:PM »
What a lot of junk.

1. The dog never found the body, Luke did(that is because he knew where it was). If it were to be believed, the dog reacted close to where Luke hid the body. I call BS on this, if the dog did indeed react, it could have reacted to loads of different scents.

2. Dogs will scent almost anything, that is not the key here, it is the person that handles the dog, that is the problem. We train dogs to do a variety of different tasks, but for specialized tasks, like sniffing for drugs, finding people, crowd control, you also need to have a trained handler, you also have to factor weather conditions, terrain, other animals, other people and lots of other things that leave scents behind, this is why handlers are trained, to recognize these factors, to recognize the dog's reaction when it finds something of interest, a dog trained or not, will go on a sniffing spree and react in many ways, to different scents.


3. Regardless of what pet owners say to their dog's. Dog's do not understand our language, yes you can tell a dog to sit, but it does not recognize the word sit like we do, it recognizes the command in a different way, and it can take lots of practice, we cannot just say out loud, go seek Jodi, it don't work like that.

4. Luke was not a trained handler, he had no idea.

5. We know you have history, but stop spamming the forum with this junk.   

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Re: dogs and blood.
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2019, 07:20:PM »
Of course, but we're talking about a tuft of grass or a tree near-by. He doesn't pull over any kind of distance. Given that the dog in question was tethered, it would be difficult to prove that it was the dog that found the body.

well we artlking a big dog a german shepard.

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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2019, 07:31:PM »
well we artlking a big dog a german shepard.

What difference does that make?

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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2019, 07:37:PM »
What a lot of junk.

1. The dog never found the body, Luke did(that is because he knew where it was). If it were to be believed, the dog reacted close to where Luke hid the body. I call BS on this, if the dog did indeed react, it could have reacted to loads of different scents.

2. Dogs will scent almost anything, that is not the key here, it is the person that handles the dog, that is the problem. We train dogs to do a variety of different tasks, but for specialized tasks, like sniffing for drugs, finding people, crowd control, you also need to have a trained handler, you also have to factor weather conditions, terrain, other animals, other people and lots of other things that leave scents behind, this is why handlers are trained, to recognize these factors, to recognize the dog's reaction when it finds something of interest, a dog trained or not, will go on a sniffing spree and react in many ways, to different scents.


3. Regardless of what pet owners say to their dog's. Dog's do not understand our language, yes you can tell a dog to sit, but it does not recognize the word sit like we do, it recognizes the command in a different way, and it can take lots of practice, we cannot just say out loud, go seek Jodi, it don't work like that.

4. Luke was not a trained handler, he had no idea.

5. We know you have history, but stop spamming the forum with this junk.

so how did a dog alker find sarah paines body then.

are you suggesting the dog walker was involed in the murder

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Re: dogs and blood.
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2019, 09:27:PM »
so how did a dog alker find sarah paines body then.

are you suggesting the dog walker was involed in the murder

The dog walker in that instance wasn't well known to the victim and in all likelihood, they would have checked him/her out as a matter of course anyway.